$308.32. Lolich was giving one of his typical awful performances in a Mets uniform. bob saunders I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Mickey liked his doughnuts. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. October 4, 2005 October 19, 2011 But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Shickhaus Franks Once the Tigers won in 84 I gave up on having a 2nd favorite because their win did nothing for me. Raymond Malcuit Jr. Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. May 8, 2003 October 18, 2008 This has never happened before? That would make him a star in today's market. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Fact is Lolich was always overweight. I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. March 22, 2005 Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). mets Cut him some slack. What an interesting parallel, huh? Rusty loved New York and the Mets, and wanted to finish his career here. mets The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. Mickey liked his doughnuts. - Now for the trade itself. You've got to pay attention to all the details every day. December 20, 2019 I remember that the Daily News at the time would have a one-page section on Sunday that showed some of the athletes with their families away from the ballpark. body would be a pretty slender person. September 12, 2002 April 27, 2013 I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? He started 45 games and completed 29. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. February 28, 2003 Meet former NHRA funny car driver Della Woods and her brother, crew chief Bernie Woods both from Lake Orion. August 11, 2015 His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. "SHELLY SMITH. School was renamed to Proper School after John and Charlotte Proper who were the first to homestead land on Baldwin. mets Baseball burnt him out. Lolich was a fine pitcher. Shari I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. He goes up one notch for being a character! Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. NYB Buff Bobster1985 The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. Jamey Bumbalo What an interesting parallel, huh? August 7, 2018 However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Bob P As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. March 5, 2006 Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Raymond Malcuit As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Dianna Jeanneh Jones God bless him wherever he is and good luck! He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. Really? October 4, 2005 Raymond Malcuit Jr. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Let's understand one thing: this wasn't a "trade" in the traditional sense. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. ''Putting on the dog has never been my style,'' he said. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Jim Snedeker Shari snook NO WAY he was 170 pounds. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Bobster1985 And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. I remember when M. Donald Grant traded Staub for Lolich he explained it to disgusted NY sports fans by saying something like "the team needs more speed. bob saunders - Now for the trade itself. About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. 6'1", 170???? Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. September 29, 2007 In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. Jay He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. bogeyman Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. support. Mickey Lolich did not want to come to the Mets. I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. pete April 30, 2009 McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? May 8, 2003 October 4, 2006 To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. Stu Baron But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." Jim Snedeker Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. Mickey liked his doughnuts. An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. August 7, 2018 They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Donut Shoppe Patron =Chuck= Jamey Bumbalo bogeyman I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. This figure has only been beaten by three other left-handed pitchers in the years since Lolich set the Major League record. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. support. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. To this day she still despises Mickey Lolich. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. Mickey liked his doughnuts. Shari You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. The fact that he pitched four consecutive 300+ inning years; that's like 10 years in today's game. Feat Fan Mickey Lolich Stats by Baseball Almanac. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. Ramblin' Pete Man, he was a big one. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. Stu Baron NYB Buff I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. Shickhaus Franks Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. After one year in New York Lolich retired. They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. Joe Figliola Really? Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. Mickey liked his doughnuts. Peter An interesting thing about Lolich that I remember from an old Mets program is that he's actually right handed. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. (thankfully returning in '81). Cy McCaughna built this private resort on M24 near Heights Road in the late 1930s. February 27, 2002 And complaining about how fat he was? Jamey Bumbalo That's more realistic but generous, I think! Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. '', At the end of his playing career, like many other athletes, Lolich worked as a manufacturer's representative - a glorified salesman - for a company that made cigarette lighters engraved with promotional messages. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? He started 45 games and completed 29. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. Mike B Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. October 18, 2008 Lolich was a fine pitcher. Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. I guess the idea that everyone loves a jolly fat guy is true. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. April 6, 2012 Sterling Heights, MI 48314. The date was December 12, 1975, a Friday. April 23, 2003 Jamey Bumbalo To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? November 3, 2006 October 13, 2008 Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. He started 45 games and completed 29. 170 lbs.? There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. August 7, 2018 As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. support. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. What an interesting parallel, huh? I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. NYB Buff HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. feat fan Ken Akerman April 27, 2013 Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. July 31, 2002 Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. October 18, 2008 SPORTS ILLUSTRATED is a registered trademark of ABG-SI LLC. Bob to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. He later came back to play for the Padres. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. October 4, 2005 But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. Jay I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. October 2, 2005 Let's understand one thing: this wasn't a "trade" in the traditional sense. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. A total bust as a Met. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. October 19, 2011 Stu Baron May 6, 2003 However, this guy had some incredible numbers in Detroit, especially in the Post Season. Was: $179.99. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Talk show? bob saunders As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. September 24, 2005 October 19, 2011 Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. August 7, 2018 We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. February 28, 2003 Bob P But this one defied all logic from the beginning. What an interesting parallel, huh? I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! Joe Rusty played another decade. After one year in New York Lolich retired. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. GoMets2006 Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. Raymond Malcuit Jr. He had terrific stuff. Peter Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. October 13, 2008 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. feat fan So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. ", At 44, Thomas looks 24 and weighs 15 pounds less than the 220 pounds he carried while with the Cowboys. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. August 11, 2015 May 6, 2003 But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. John Bruce Robert (thankfully returning in '81). Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. Mike B His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. All Rights Reserved. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. And Rusty Staub? The last thing the Tigers needed was a dandy hitter whose hitting only went to support lopsided slugfest losses every day. In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. November 19, 2002 29. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. senor ortiz 6'1", 170???? -. (thankfully returning in '81). Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Lolich was an outstanding pitcher who had just experienced an off season in Detroit. 6'1", 170???? But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. No contest. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. Mike B ", His poetry would probably also stop Ali in his tracks. I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. January 12, 2011 eddiek snook Dianna Jeanneh Jones Bobster1985 Shickhaus Franks What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. September 29, 2007 I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. Rusty played another decade. etc. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. September 29, 2007 But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. An online store and history website that curates Lake Orion history and offers. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Shari Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. August 11, 2015 April 24, 2003 Rusty played another decade. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. Raymond Malcuit Jr. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. bob saunders Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. Randy Tate June 2, 2006 He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. He later came back to play for the Padres. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. An interesting thing about Lolich that I remember from an old Mets program is that he's actually right handed. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. Feat Fan October 18, 2008 January 12, 2011 NO WAY he was 170 pounds. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. 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