The Nosler Model 48 Custom handgun is a bit pricy, but like I saidIf I were to get serious about deer hunting with a handgun. According to article 624.7181 of the Lisbon Treaty, a permit for carrying in public places is required. You need to be really close. 1911-style 10mms are probably the most popular choice for the 10mm, and the D10 from Tisas is a very affordable and good shooting option. Building on the reputation of the companys HEVI-Metal line, the new Xtreme series uses a blend of 30 percent tungsten shot and 70 percent precision steel pellets for a combination that will have you dropping birds from the sky with authority. As I write this, the first portion of our firearm deer season is over and now we have an Anterless-Only Season followed by an Alternative Method season, both of which allow the use of handguns. Trophy Bonded JSP, Ill be ready for em! Two of his 200-grain rounds broke the boar's shoulder and his back anchoring the pig before he could get into some heavy cover. Don't know about SC. Handguns are primarily regarded as defensive weapons, which in our world means their anticipated use is against human threats. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. That makes this Kimber one of the most expensive handguns I have ever purchased. The SAAMI standard is not supported by this document. Unlike the Colt and the Smith, this Ruger is a single-action revolver, which means youll have to cock the hammer before each shot. The debate still rages on about 1911 type actions versus revolvers for backup guns for hunting. They are densely packed creatures with tough hides and sometimes serious gristle plate for protection. A 45 ACP bullet with a bullet size of 400 yards is estimated to be 1550 fps with an energy footlb of 801. But the 6-inch gun gives you the longest sight radius which will allow you to reach out to nearly the maximum range at which a 357 Magnum handgun is suitable for deer. One other note I encourage you to check out Yamil Sueds review of the TRP Operator in .45 ACP. On our farm, we have several blinds located throughout the property. In hunting, its all about making that first shot conclusive, but once blood is drawn, its about finishing the animal. I consider pistol hunting deer, like bow hunting with a gun, to be a close-range sport because I want to kill deer at close quarters. It's called the Bill Of Rights! But what if you could use hard cast, heavy bullets in the .45 ACP? After all, shooting a handgun accurately, consistently, is more difficult than shooting a rifle with its shoulder support. But, I can honestly say, if you havent taken up handgun hunting youre in for a real treat. If you like an adrenaline rush, hunting wild hogs with dogs will get your heart rate accelerated for sure. For many years both were the most popular duty guns found in the holsters of American cops. Tim Sundles, who sells ammo in the Montana wilderness, shoots with the same ammo. Thats the one I wanted for deer hunting. A muzzleloader can be in the field or at the ready with an in-line or disk design. NRA life member, PGR member and always remember to be a member of the clean plate club. Being a former marine rather than an ivory tower scientist, Mike uses his products afield, and when he learned that the Dunton Ranch in northern Arizona offered guided pig hunts and was halfway between our homes, it was game on. The third shot perforated low in the chest area just under the hide but failed to strike any of the vital organs. Straight from SHOT Show, here are the latest Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. Neither got out of sight after the shots. The new ultra-lightweight .30-caliber Banish Backcountry is a 100 percent titanium, fully welded, fixed-length suppressor that measures 5.5 inches in length and weighs just 7.8 ounces. We owe it to the magnificent game we pursue to make a well-placed shot resulting in a clean, quick demise. Privacy Statement - What I lacked was a demonstration of either rounds ability to penetrate the serious gristle armor on a large boar. According to a wildlife manager with the Department of Natural Resources, there has been no problem with game recovery because of lighter loads. The most popular calibers in recent years include the 45-70 Magnum lever gun. Once I determine my effective range, this becomes my self-imposed limit. Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk Bisley Hunter, Smith & Wesson Performance Center Model 460, There isnt a lot wrong with the 586 or 686, Less power than a .357 Magnum, but still sufficient for deer. Mike and I were both thinking that the guides at Tejon had the right idea: The 10 mm probably does penetrate better than the .45 ACP if one is restricted to lead-free bullets. We have medium-small sized deer here in SC compared to other areas of the country and will be carrying a 1911 with me this year, along with my rifle. Dave installed G10 MILTAC grips from Craig Sword and engraved 25 lines per inch checkering on both front and back strap. Good question, and there are probably a wide variety of answers. I've taken several deer with a 6" S&W 586. Sorry. And at six grand, it also has the ability to cause a divorce. In this case I had to slightly ease the slide back from the muzzle to get the release to let go. The author takes a shot with the Nosler Model 48 Custom Handgun. I have personally shot them with .45,10mm, and 9x23. The bullets are made of hard cast lead with a thick copper jacket and feature a sharp, flat nose profile that is optimized for deep penetration. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to use this website. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Kimber owns over 40 percent of the total market, which is a tremendous achievement for any gun maker these days. And by the way, I have no clue why getting a specific Kimber model might be so difficult. With both, bullet upset is desirable, penetration a must. USMC 68-72. I know lots of guys like the hardcast bullets for handgun hunting. If you have a P type load, you are more likely to kill a deer if you shoot it at a human range with 185 or 200 shots. Over 3000 articles and columns published nationally. They put me in the mind of killing flies with a sledgehammer. However, the technical definition for a pistol is a handgun with a chamber that is integral to the barrel. The prevalence of larger animals in the north is most likely due to the prevalence of white-tail deer, which can be shot with a rifle, whereas smaller animals, such as squirrels, are more common in the south. While bow hunting for deer, a person is not permitted to have a firearm unless he or she has obtained a permit or license. Cookie Policy - Neither round exited the 300-plus-pound pig. The load for a carbine is 30 tons. The action is fast-paced along with being up close and personal. I would suggest that 10mm might be a better round for killing deer. I wouldn't recommend it for sure but it can be done. During the regular firearms season in the shotguns use area, only legal shotguns with single-slug shells, legal muzzle-loading long guns, and legal handguns are permitted to be used to take deer. By the time I was ready for a second shot, the pig had gained its feet and had started its sprint out of the heavy cover away from us. Slipping up from behind some pinion pine trees, he got within about 45 yards when he ran out of both cover and day light. Minnesota Statute 624.9, also known as the Minnesota Personal Protection Act, outlines the rules for keeping a firearm while bow hunting for deer. At the time, I had no way of knowing how important that gold bead on the front sight would be. The extra length might not handle as easily in a fast and furious defensive situation, but it would provide additional weight near the muzzle for quicker shot-to-shot recovery and could provide an extra few feet per second of velocity. He takes a close look at the gun in this classic cartridge. Trophy Bonded JSP. Most gun manufacturers advise against using non-SAAMI-compliant primers and bullets. These There is no definitive answer when it comes to the best legal deer hunting calibers in Minnesota. But big wild boars are not soft skinned animals. The 9mm As a Hunting Cartridge Shawn has a ranch that has been in his family for quite some time and being the avid hunter that he is, has it set up for deer hunting in a way that would make any hunter proud. At this early stage in the planning process, I could not specify what load I planned to use, so Dave suggested an adjustable Bomar-style rear sight that would let me dial in the gun for whatever load I selected. Of course, the downside to this sniper-like handgun is weight; I own big game rifles that weigh less, and you wont be off-hand shooting whitetails with this gun. This particular 1911 is a longslide with 6 barrel. But why does anyone want to hunt with a handgun in the first place? Live The Armory Life. I have an excellent snw 357 mag, but still prefer a rifle. sidearms just weren't made for hunting. Many hunters have been calling for this change for a long time, and it will be a significant improvement. Even so, he avoids using hypothetical pontification to back up his claims. I would hope it's not some Macho Bull Crap! I wish I could tell you I saw four perfect, precise sight pictures (one for each shot and a fourth followup,) and that any one of the three hits would have finished the action. When hunting deer I use my SD carry load, 230gr Speer GoldDot JHP keep my shots to 50 yards and less and it will knock a deer off it's feet. Drawing and shooting with your 45, must be watching a lot of westerns. Slowly, I rested the Operator on the window ledge of the blind and settled the sights behind the shoulder. criteria for handgun deer hunting, but no longer. I'm pretty sure you can kill a deer with a .45 ACP, but I'm not so sure that it will be a quick kill. I recently acquired a new-in-the-box Kimber Custom II-Stainless Target II in 10mm for a project. 1911 Idaho Pioneer Family Cowgirls Rifle Guns Gunbelt w Bullets Hunt Deer . views and opinions of Springfield Armory. This article is featured in Sorry, an error occurred and we could not sign you up. Heres a look at nine of the best options with a few hand cannons thrown in for good measure or silliness, whichever you prefer. A call to Dave Williams at Springfield Armory got the ball rolling. People hunt deer for food and sport. Best GLOCK Kill Shots | Pistol Hunting CompilationKeith Warren has been a professional hunter for decades and his hunting career has had him chasing many dif. Because of the lead free premise that triggered this column, I focused immediately on the 155-grain all-copper Barnes JHP load even though I would normally have selected something heavier for general purpose pig hunting. A bow hunting license is required for those who hunt with a bow and arrow. If you have a felony record, you cannot hunt with a firearm. For defense in the backcountry, look no further than Winchester Big Bore. This would include bolt action and single-shot handguns. One of the best options thats a bit shy of absurdity is the Ruger Super Redhawk 454 Casull. Thanks for your help on this. There was no time for a third shot as the pig had reached open ground and broken left behind some rocks. Triple L Quail. With the 12- or 14-inch TC barrel, the G2 is just slightly heavier than a Python or a 686. There is no definitive answer to this question as it varies from state to state. In addition to the 430 Marlin, there are heavy 38-55 and heavy 348 Winchester. Buffalo bore is best known for its Heavy or ammunition bullets, such as a 9 mm Heavy load with a 1241 Grain JHP that shoots from a 5-inch barrel at over 1,350 fps. My moves were all derived from my training and the repetitive exercises performed in training. 38 Super, and 45ACP for purposes of hunting. For years, Ive been shooting 22-caliber center-fire bullets. Reply D dk17hmr Well-Known Member Joined Nov 15, 2009 Messages 259 Location Wyoming In Minnesota, it is illegal to shoot deer with a 1911 45acp. with a 1911 45acp? Back here in the Midwest there is an incredible amount of hunting pressure on the deer. Except for wolves, which can only be hunted with the calibers specified in subdivision 1, anyone who takes small game with a handgun of any caliber may do so under commissioners orders. But for the guides who venture into heavy brush after wounded pigs with handguns, it was a different story. Death may stalk me but it will never take me alive. Opening/connecting with just a quarter-twist and offering an extremely simple breakdown, the latest addition to Savages A Series lineup is the outdoor enthusiasts new go-anywhere rifle. All about shot placement, I believe. In one shot, I shot a 122-yard round out of my Encore.270 pistol. However, the sheer challenge involved would more than likely have something to do with appeal. This not only increases your sight radius, but it will also give a bit of velocity boost to the 10mm cartridge. JavaScript is disabled. ~ Recurveman~. With any luck at all, I hope to prove out the results of all this in the coming days of the Mississippi white-tailed deer hunting season, which runs through the end of January. Theyre rugged, accurate, and can still be had for less than a grand. If you purchase a firearm using the links in this story, we may earn commission. I've used my 1911 on several hunts, deer, hog, and I've taken 2 black bears. In pure lead, there is a Brinell hardness of around four out of ten. JavaScript is disabled. Many people who are against deer hunting with a handgun argue that it is not a fair chase because the deer does not have a chance to escape. Antique firearms may be brought into the state as a curiosity or as a means of furthering the historical or cultural significance of the firearm. I am not kidding, either. 223 is a common caliber used in both shotguns and pistols. Lead free, or all copper bullets, show dramatic terminal performance on soft skinned animals, even when fired at the reduced velocities generated by handguns. Add in the fact you must get close to the game in pursuit, and that adds another level of challenge to address. Just wondering, this being a 1911 forum, has anyone ever tried and had luck shooting a deer with one? He staggered, and Mike put him down with two more quick shots. I don't care what ya hunt there are plenty of dedicated calibers available for everything. The guns height is 5.25 inches, length is 8.7 inches, width 1.28 inches, weight 38 ounces with an 8-round factory magazine with an 18.5 pound recoil spring (which is why this model is a bit tough to hand cycle the slide). $6.50 + $4.50 shipping . In both types of hunting, 223 is a common cartridge. Its available in six chamberings from .22 Nosler to .308 Winchester, and with a 12-, 13-, 14-, 15-, 16-, 17-, or 18-inch barrel. Ennis, TX. If the Python is the Cadillac of American revolvers, the S&W 586 & 686 revolvers are the Jeeps. A legal rifled barrel shotguns are one of these. I also set up a highway construction stand to shoot off of at 20 yards to repeat this level of acceptable accuracy. Reply 11-21-2008, 06:04 AM # 19 wis_bow_huntr Giant Nontypical Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nekoosa Wi USA Posts: 6,066 RE: 1911 for Deer gpa: taken a bunch with the 1911 in 45 under deprivation permits and like bigeasy I too use a hardcast semi-wadcutter, the Lyman bullet # 452423, originally a Keith style design for the 45 Auto rim at 238-240 gns over 6.5 of Unique for right around 950'/sec. In the dim light, the gold bead stood out like a beacon, and after the first shot, it came immediately back on target presenting a second, equally clear sight picture. In 2015, Mann began contributing to Field & Stream to cover guns, ammunition, ballistics, and hunting. In prep for some range shooting, sight adjusting, and such, I completely cleaned and lightly lubricated the pistol. Deer prefer shotguns over rifles because shotguns are less effective at killing them, and bucks frequently avoid areas with a lot of shotguns. It well outperforms the standards of 9mm. A person over the age of 18 may carry a handgun in the woods or in the fields while hunting or shooting targets. You aren't likely to get to within 25 yds even by accident. JavaScript is disabled. That I am not sure about. Another shot broke a front leg where it joins the shoulder. The 586 is the blued version and comes with wood grips, the 686 is stainless steel and has a rubber grip. There is plenty of premium factory hunting ammunition available for hunters including Federals 180-gr. You have the same right to keep and carry a pistol as you do to keep and carry an air rifle, shotguns, or BB gun without a permit. :biglaugh: The 45 ACP is not a good tool for this job. If you buy a 500 Smith & Wesson for deer hunting, the price will not matter, because you dont have enough sense to make good decisions anyway. Married with two children and Molly the Schnoodle. There is no straight answer when it comes to deer hunting with a handgun in Minnesota. At the range I initiated shooting the out of the box gun at ten yards into a white pizza pie cardboard insert target upon which I drew black crosshairs. Deer-hunting handguns include revolvers, semi-automatics, and single shots. It can be very challenging, frustrating at times, but overall its extremely rewarding. I would try to keep a maximum range of 50yds. This is due in large part to the fact that different hunters have different preferences when it comes to their firearms and ammunition choices. Just because their still kickin' doesn't mean their not dead. In a 1911 type pistol configuration the 10mm is just about the most powerful cartridge available. I wasnt pretending to be the avenging senior citizen; I have spent many hours on the Gunsite Academy ranges with exactly this kind of rig, and while Ill never be a threat to Rob Leatham on the competition circuit, I had gained some proficiency in presenting a 1911 from leather and delivering a precise, fight-stopping shot, at least on paper targets. One shot penetrated the chest cavity right at the diaphragm and while it might not have dropped him on the spot, should have put him down for the count before traveling to far. The 10mm has experienced a rise in popularity, resulting in ammo manufacturers offering some mighty fine hunting rounds. All of the hard cast rounds were "through and through" the much smaller animal. I like shooting steel targets on my farm for regular practice as the sound of ringing steel keeps my interest. If your scope is set up properly ad on low power like you wisely had it, you should be on target in the blink of an eye. They traditionally like to move late mornings and would be perfect lighting for target sights. In ohio it is a minimum of a 5-inch barrel length, so a full sized 1911 would qualify. The vaunted stopping power of the .45 ACP fails if sufficient penetration is not achieved. The barrel length must be four inches or shorter in 44 caliber or larger, and no shoulder stock or long barrel modifications are permitted. 45acp is great against humans. Hunting laws required at least.23 caliber weapons, but several other cartridges were exempt. The only good thing about a Texas drought is that there are fewer watering holes for game. What I don't understand is why anyone would want use a marginal caliber on any animal?? To be able to take part in bow hunting for deer, you must first obtain a valid bow hunting permit. Probably a wide variety of answers hunting youre in for a third shot as the sound ringing. 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